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Thread: justified paranoia??

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    so i get this email about ebay a few days ago.

    it tells me that ebay is 'cracking down' on
    fraudulent ebay accounts and is asking all
    of its users to resubmit their information
    so that ebay can 'lock in' their account for
    the new(er) ebay security system.

    i ignored it.

    today i get another, similar email which states:

    ******************************************


    Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 00:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
    To: [email protected]
    From: [email protected] | This is spam | Add to Address Book
    Subject: eBay Verification Needed Case # H8SFGV




    sent_from [email protected]
    Dear eBay User,

    It has become very noticeable that another party has
    been corrupting your eBay account and has violated our User Agreement
    policy listed:

    4. Bidding and Buying

    You are obligated to complete the transaction with the
    seller if you purchase an item through one of our fixed price formats or
    are the highest bidder as described below. If you are the highest
    bidder at the end of an auction (meeting the applicable minimum bid or
    reserve requirements) and your bid is accepted by the seller, you are
    obligated to complete the transaction with the seller, or the transaction is
    prohibited by law or by this Agreement.

    You received this notice from eBay because it has come
    to our attention that your current account has caused interruptions with
    other eBay members and eBay requires immediate verification for your
    account. Please verify your account or the account may become disabled.
    please <a
    HREF="http://rd.yahoo.com/careers/mailsig/new/*http://www.ebau.tk/">Click
    here to verify</a>


    Sincerely,
    Devon Marlin
    Ebay Fraud Department
    Case Number :VE3O4Q
    **********************************************

    Designated trademarks and brands are the property of
    their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc.
    YCH3VL

    ************************************************

    when i clicked the link, i was taken to an
    'ebay' page that asks for me to fill in
    ALL of my ebay/paypal information as a
    necessary device in going under ebay's new(er)
    security system. i'm not sure but i think
    if you click the link, it will take you there
    as well.

    my question.... i realize i have reason to
    be suspicious of such an email(s)....
    and regardless of the fact that i was given
    an email addy to forward my questions....
    i'm not sure if i should do this.

    what do you think?

    the first email was the typical 'we are cracking
    down on theifs' kinda thing.... but this
    email is stating that someone has been
    using my ebay ID and making purchases....
    so i dunno wtf.

    ideas? thoughts?

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    have you emailed ebay asking them?

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    of course not, silly!

    i always come here for the facts!

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    [img]eek.gif[/img] [img]eek.gif[/img]

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    i'd say
    do not trust these people.
    In no circumstance will those affiliated with pay-sites ask you for your billing information. That's something the are very carefull about.

    This just reeks as a scam.
    For one : It's not even an e-bay site you are redirected to, but to a site that's called ebau.tk.
    Now i know that the dot TK domains are cheap and usually used for non-legal purposes.

    What they use in the url is something called a redirect, where you click on the url, and you get sent to a different site.

    But basically, it's a scam. If i were you, i'd send a mail to e-bay, informing of the guys who are a) stealing their design, b) trying to scam people in giving their creditcard info c) send spam.

    cya, could you do a whois on ebau.tk?

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    so it's justified!

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    here is the information received from the header
    of the email:

    X-Apparently-To: [email protected] via 216.136.129.139; 19 May 2003 21:18:13 -0700 (PDT)
    Return-Path: <>
    Received: from 216.156.2.19 (EHLO relay1.9netave.com) (216.156.2.19) by mta190.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2003 21:18:12 -0700 (PDT)
    Received: from mail.njd.xo.com ([216.156.1.232]) by relay1.9netave.com (8.11.6p2/8.8.8) with SMTP id h4K4Y5763474 for <[email protected]>; Tue, 20 May 2003 00:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
    Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 00:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
    Message-Id: <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    From: [email protected] | This is spam | Add to Address Book
    Subject: eBay Verification Needed Case # H8SFGV
    Content-Length: 713

    _____________________________________________

    strangely, the other IPs listed are through
    SWBELL *glares at TG*.....


    when i traced www.ebau.tk.... here is the info i got:

    Name: www.ebau.tk
    IP Address: 195.20.32.86
    Location: AMSTERDAM (52.370N, 4.900E)
    Network: NL-VERZA
    _____________________________________________

    and after tracing that IP, i got:

    This is the RIPE Whois server.
    The objects are in RPSL format.

    Rights restricted by copyright.
    See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-serv...copyright.html

    inetnum: 195.20.32.0 - 195.20.32.255
    netname: NL-VERZA
    descr: Verza BV network
    country: NL
    admin-c: JZ270-RIPE
    tech-c: JZ270-RIPE
    rev-srv: ns1.verza.com
    rev-srv: ns2.verza.com
    status: ASSIGNED PA
    notify: [email protected]
    mnt-by: COLT-NL-MNT
    changed: [email protected] 20020618
    changed: [email protected] 20020619
    changed: [email protected] 20020903
    source: RIPE

    route: 195.20.32.0/24
    descr: VERZA-NL
    origin: AS8220
    mnt-by: COLT-NL-MNT
    changed: [email protected] 20020612
    changed: [email protected] 20020903
    source: RIPE

    person: Joost Zuurbier
    address: Verza BV
    address: Singel 540
    address: NL-1017 AZ Amsterdam
    address: NETHERLANDS
    phone: +31 20 3208833
    fax-no: +31 20 3208832
    e-mail: [email protected]
    nic-hdl: JZ270-RIPE
    remarks: Verza General Manager
    notify: [email protected]
    changed: [email protected] 20020618
    source: RIPE

    ___________________________________________

    so what do you make of THEM apples???

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    btw.... apparently when you get emails like this,
    you are to immediately forward them (with headers)
    to [email protected]

    this has been done.
    just FYI.

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    3rd post....

    one more thing, when you click on www.ebau.tk....
    the link at the bottom says something different.

    so i typed it in... minus the additional linkage
    and was brought here:

    CLICK

    if you take that addy and add /happy.html

    it should bring you to that fake ebay page


    (i contacted AOL on this matter as well)

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    that really is impressive work.....i don't even want to know how many people probably fell for it....

    i went to that last link you posted...very impressive work....but my question is this...first, why would all the information be requested from a AOL House & Home page? and also, if you click on the top bars...ie my ebay, browse, etc...only some of the links work, and the link bars are all jacked up anyways. they did an excellent job, but not good enough to a skilled ebayer to fall for it....

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